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[personal profile] zorkian
A gentleman by the name of William Kostric attended one of the healtcare "town halls" that President Obama has been leading. I call this out because Kostric showed up with a sidearm -- an openly carried pistol strapped to his right leg below the knee. (Which, just to note, is completely legal in New Hampshire, where this event was taking place.)

I don't really have much to say, but kudos! Kostric makes the point that if we do not exercise our rights then we lose them, and I think that's entirely valid. The more you don't stand up for what you believe in, for what is right, the more quickly you will lose those rights.

The video below is interesting, too. Chris Matthews is basically yelling at him, including swearing at one point, and the entire time Kostric keeps his cool, answers the questions, and defends himself calmly and rationally.

Good on you, William.


Source: There are many, here's one: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5235445.shtml

And here's the video of William Kostric on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:

Date: 2009-08-12 09:33 pm (UTC)

invisionary: "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.  When I ask why the poor have no food they call me a communist." (Default)
From: [personal profile] invisionary
While I don't believe that "an armed society is a polite society", I do have to respect him - and the Obama administration and Secret Service, for not infringing on what I see as a Constitutional right. Now, of course, the second he lifts that piece from his leg a bullet enters his brain, and he probably had a rifle trained on his head the entire evening, but that's beside the point. He has a right to carry, and I believe that any person without a felony or DV-related conviction and without a recent history of mental illness ought to have the right to purchase, own, and carry in a safe manner any firearm they wish, that can be operated safely by a single person.

However, I also believe that guns and gun owners should be licensed and registered in a manner similar to automobiles - not to restrict the rights of gun owners, but to protect them. There are a lot of cases of municipal police denying firearm permits for reasons they do not have to reveal and I want that system done away with and made objective and fair to everyone, especially responsible firearm owners.

That's my two cents :).
Date: 2009-08-13 02:37 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] cjmarsicano
I fully agree.
Date: 2009-08-12 11:22 pm (UTC)


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From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
I have been considering a post about the "only in America" condescending-toned articles in international media along the lines of "What, only in America would a man demand his legal rights no matter who happened to be in the area? Damn, good on us," for the last day or so.

This post is better. thank you.
Date: 2009-08-13 01:15 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] slowsculpture
Here's what's most telling about the clip, to me: A few questions in, the host derails the guy's response to the original question, by asking who he voted for last November. Our news media seem to be on a mission to convince us that all American political thought fits somewhere between the Republican and Democratic platforms, and when facts contradict that message, they get themselves into some odd contortions.

I hadn't heard about this - thanks for the post.
Date: 2009-08-13 02:54 pm (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] phoenixsong
Have not watched the clip in question, but having seen Chris Matthews in action (other episodes), I'm not really surprised.
Date: 2009-08-13 01:20 am (UTC)

patti: WATCH OUT (Default)
From: [personal profile] patti
1.) Chris Matthews is a dickwad.
2.) Anyone who supported Ron Paul is a dickwad.
3.) They are probably both dickwads, imo.
Date: 2009-08-13 01:21 am (UTC)

patti: WATCH OUT (Default)
From: [personal profile] patti
4.) The word "dickwad" is underrated.
Date: 2009-08-13 02:44 am (UTC)

cjmarsicano: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cjmarsicano
Yeah, and quite honestly, this nutjob pretty much did the 2nd Amendment no favors by showing up with it on - and in a rather conspicuous place, too, as if he wanted it to be seen.

And on a related note, however rationally he responded to Chris Matthews doesn't legitimatize how irrational a lot of the stuff that came out of his mouth was (never mind that he tried to sidestep questions more often than not). Medicare and Social Security were mistakes? So does that mean people who are old should just either work until they're dead, or wither away and die when they retire? That's a "hooray for me and fuck you" mentality and that just isn't right.
Date: 2009-08-13 02:53 am (UTC)

cjmarsicano: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cjmarsicano
So even if your 401(k) goes the way of the Edsel, are you going to refuse social security and Medicare when you reach that age?
Date: 2009-08-13 03:08 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] adalger

I've chosen to discontinue accepting the WIC my ex was getting for the kids, even though I'm eligible, because I don't need it. And I, too, have a pretty diverse 401(k). I'm torn between needing to go a little heavier in stable investments because of my age, and needing to go a little heavier in aggressive investments because of how far behind I am.

And, yes, now is a phenomenal time to invest.
Date: 2009-08-13 07:15 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] juliet
What if your family & friends don't have the money to be borrowed either? What if you're never paid enough to have any spare money to save, either for retirement or for something going wrong (the US minimum wage is close-enough to ours, & I know how difficult it is to operate on the UK minimum wage)? It's great that you *do* have both of those privileges, but they are privileges, and not everyone has the background, education, and opportunities to access those privileges. Or they just get unlucky.
Date: 2009-08-13 01:30 am (UTC)

patti: WATCH OUT (Default)
From: [personal profile] patti
On a more serious note, here is what I actually got from this:

Guy pulls stunt to push his political agenda. Guy gets headlines and screamed at by Chris Matthews and probably other various media attention. Guy wins.
Date: 2009-08-13 02:56 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] janinedog
I'm all for the right to bear arms (when it's done legally, of course), but I think it was pretty odd to go to a town hall meeting (that had nothing to do with guns or the 2nd amendment at all) to basically flaunt his gun. It'd be one thing if he was just carrying it but was going to participate in the meeting, or even if he was protesting something related to the meeting...but instead he wore it specifically to make a statement that doesn't even seem relevant to the discussion at hand. So yeah, it was basically done as a way to get press, and it worked. And while I respect his message, I don't think it was the appropriate forum for it.
Date: 2009-08-13 03:18 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] janinedog
Hmm...but socialism doesn't have to do with carrying guns, does it? I mean, you can be a socialist and support gun carrying. I suppose it often goes together that people who support the right to bear arms tend to either be republican or libertarian (or something conservative-like), but he made it clear that he didn't like republicans either, so...I'm not sure. I feel like he'd do this anyway even if McCain won and was doing some town hall meeting instead of Obama.
Date: 2009-08-13 03:47 am (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] lacey
I'm currently waiting on my concealed carry permit to be approved by the Kentucky State Police, and then I'll be able to carry my firearms concealed.

I'm not a constitutional historian, and I don't know how I feel about the 2nd Amendment. I'm not qualified to make that judgement.

That said, I'll happily carry concealed, but I won't ever carry openly outside of my house. I believe it just causes trouble, and I don't want to bring that on myself.

That also said, I think Kostric has some major stones for open carrying where he did. Even if I were fine with open-carrying, I wouldn't have the nerve to do what he did, even though it's completely legal where he did it.


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